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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:24 am    Post subject: Intercooler question Reply with quote

Hey guys...

Maybe im not searching correctly. Just kinda looking for some recommended specs on an intercooler (piping size, cooling area, etc.)

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

anything really that you can fit in the front(i dont think that there is enough room to really go to big, but could be wrong), and run 2.25-2.5in piping.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cool. I just remember reading I dont want something too small to cool enough air for a VG30. Especially since I think I'm going to end up doing a blown 3.8
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yesiownanmgb wrote:
Cool. I just remember reading I dont want something too small to cool enough air for a VG30. Especially since I think I'm going to end up doing a blown 3.8


lol! I hope you dont mean the buick 3.8?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bwhahaha. Nah, I'm thinking about doing the fabled VG38.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make sure who ever is going to be building the fabled VG38 for ya has a torque plate when boring your block out that much. peace.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a turbocharged 3.8. From a Buick GN. Now that would be cool. And there was a Viper engine for sale here on craigslist awhile back. That would be different.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I certainly would NOT boost a VG thats bored out to 3.8L. Cylinder walls would be to thin for boost IMO.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

already been discussed:

http://z31performance.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=13186&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=bore&start=0
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike85t wrote:
Try a turbocharged 3.8. From a Buick GN. Now that would be cool. And there was a Viper engine for sale here on craigslist awhile back. That would be different.

please. Buick 3.8's belong in GN's thats about it, there blocks arent any stronger than a vg's or more suited for boost. Cooler than buick 3.8 would be an old turbo fire 215 v8, IMO. My friend has been researching the viper v10 swap for his chopped 73 chev pickup. He's found 8.3L engines rebuilt for 3500 bucks! Thats an awesome deal compared to what they want for just a stock 92-95 RT/10 engine. peace.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nismopu wrote:
mike85t wrote:
Try a turbocharged 3.8. From a Buick GN. Now that would be cool. And there was a Viper engine for sale here on craigslist awhile back. That would be different.

please. Buick 3.8's belong in GN's thats about it, there blocks arent any stronger than a vg's or more suited for boost. Cooler than buick 3.8 would be an old turbo fire 215 v8, IMO. My friend has been researching the viper v10 swap for his chopped 73 chev pickup. He's found 8.3L engines rebuilt for 3500 bucks! Thats an awesome deal compared to what they want for just a stock 92-95 RT/10 engine. peace.

Maybe it's just the extra 800cc or maybe it's the aftermarket and tech support but I'd take a GN 3.8 over a VG30et without question. If I started with a GN engine and you started with a vg30et and we each had the same amount to spend on mods you would always be in my rearview mirror Wink
http://www.scottiegnz.com/eng-trans.html
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ScottieGNZ-101-132_20027.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike85t wrote:
nismopu wrote:
mike85t wrote:
Try a turbocharged 3.8. From a Buick GN. Now that would be cool. And there was a Viper engine for sale here on craigslist awhile back. That would be different.

please. Buick 3.8's belong in GN's thats about it, there blocks arent any stronger than a vg's or more suited for boost. Cooler than buick 3.8 would be an old turbo fire 215 v8, IMO. My friend has been researching the viper v10 swap for his chopped 73 chev pickup. He's found 8.3L engines rebuilt for 3500 bucks! Thats an awesome deal compared to what they want for just a stock 92-95 RT/10 engine. peace.

Maybe it's just the extra 800cc or maybe it's the aftermarket and tech support but I'd take a GN 3.8 over a VG30et without question. If I started with a GN engine and you started with a vg30et and we each had the same amount to spend on mods you would always be in my rearview mirror Wink
http://www.scottiegnz.com/eng-trans.html
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/ScottieGNZ-101-132_20027.htm


Its funny when you brought this up the first build I thought of was scotties GNZ. He was my proof that hypereutectic pistons are equal strength to forged slugs but cant handle the det. threshold of forged units. Anyway, I am aware of what the bucik 3.8 can do. Its old news and nothing inpressive IMO. The technology involved with the vg is far greater than the 3.8 and more reliable, also aftermarket support merely has to do with how much money you wanna spend. Displacement will always win in a hp race. Its just like watching big blocks race with small blocks chasing after them at the drag strips. Im done hijacking this thread, lol. sorry Iownanmgb. peace.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mike85t wrote:
Maybe it's just the extra 800cc or maybe it's the aftermarket and tech support but I'd take a GN 3.8 over a VG30et without question. If I started with a GN engine and you started with a vg30et and we each had the same amount to spend on mods you would always be in my rearview mirror Wink


I bet you would not get 300,000 miles on a Buick engine. I'd take the VG.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking at a intercooler unit, and when I asked the guy about the size of it he said,

"its big, dimensions are probably 3.5'ft wide 1 ft tall and about 3'' thick if i had to guess."

He also said he thinks the inlet is 2.75, and the outlet is 2.25.
I remember reading somewhere that 2.5 and below is optimal, is that correct?
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